Dr. Erich Jarvis: The Neuroscience of Speech, Language & Music | Huberman Lab Podcast #87

I switch gestures. As personality switches with languages

Andrew is a brilliant guy, and I guarantee you that he’s not saying everything cuz people won’t be able to digest.

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I do have to say I've loved this topic. I started watching Dr. Huberman's podcasts due to my profound interest in acquiring more insightful data regarding nueroplasticity. Due to I am a linguist and I've studied English as a foreign language. I am very aware of Vigostky's, Piaget's, Krashen's and all EFL processess, approches, methods, strategies and tecniques. However, neuroplasticity breaks up the conventional and tradictional conviction and misconception that L2 cannot be feasible after puberty, the critical period or adolescence. So that was the premise and foundation that encouraged me to engage into Dr. Huberman's lab podcasts. Now I've found such a marvelous, nourishing, insightful, remarkable videos that entail more regarding my field.

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I am very inclined to the in-depth philosophical avenues of knowledge I can generate and attain accurately by other means. Nonetheless, my devotion is increasing more regarding nueroscience. As to why, nuerology is corretated with Linguistics in Nuero-linguistics.

I liked pretty much the Paralanguage Dr. Javis first introduced. I second him within the paralinguistcs involved in animal kind.

In a nutshell, it is indisputable, irrebuttable and ineffable how delighted I am with this podcast. Thanks to both!

Even what they just explained particularly with the vocal cords actually vibrating when you read something. That means the technology to be able to improve your thoughts already exist in this being exacted. Mind reading is real y'all heard it here first though

I am a dancer, not a scientist, but it seems to me that the elimination of cursive writing from the elementary school curriculum must having an effect on a child's ability to learn and understand how to use circular pathways both functionally and expressively to interact with his/her environment, both in movement and in speech. Thank you for your podcast. It has changed my behavior.

I’m a Mom to 10 year old identical twin girls, who are severely autistic and non-verbal. We implement movement into their learning at home and school.

Verbal and non-verbal communication has been a huge focus in our family, and helping my daughters learn how to express their emotions, thoughts and needs is something I’ve devoted a huge amount of my energy into. Majority of communication is leading or gesturing. We have made slow progress with using Touch Chat on an iPad.

My one daughter has an arachnoid cyst, the other does not. I’ve been very curious to know if that cyst may have any affect on her vision. At times her pupils will be unevenly dilated. I’ve spoken to the neurosurgeon and ophthalmologist at the Alberta Childrens Hospital, but unfortunately got no answers.

Do we speak words we hear when listening? I sometimes see people who seem to subtly mouth words as they are listening.

Topic for new video: The synaptic structure of memory in all regions of the human brain.

Great episode , the part about work done by Eddie Chan regarding transferring of electrical signals from neutrons into speech was amazing and scary at the same time. It sounds a lot like telepathy to me! Sure he would be an interesting guest .

This is what Douglas Adams said about the Belcebron people of Kakrafoon and telepathy:-

“The Belcebron people used to cause great resentment and insecurity amongst neighboring races by being one of the most enlightened, accomplished, and above all quiet civilizations in the Galaxy.

As a punishment for this behavior, which was held to be offensively self righteous and provocative, a Galactic Tribunal inflicted on them that most cruel of all social diseases, telepathy. Consequently, in order to prevent themselves broadcasting every slightest thought that crossed their minds to anyone within a five mile radius, they now have to talk very loudly and continuously about the weather, their little aches and pains, the match this afternoon and what a noisy place Kakrafoon had suddenly become. “

🙏. I have this problem of Writing down my thought. I already finished the thought before finishing my writing. It is not unique to me at all.

What is a pidgin language? This is a great question for a linguist! Pidgin is actually a classification and not a specific type of language. There are many examples from around the world.
Additionally, a lot of what is known (historically) about speech & language comes from observations about disordered speech & language. Frank Guenther's work on a neuro-computational model for speech production explores the brain "circuits" involved to answer where breakdowns occur for disorders such as stuttering.
Loved learning about the hummingbirds!!! Very interesting to hear from a vocalization researcher's pov.

Hey Andrew – both an observation for you personally and also maybe someone will study this one day. I was in the Peace Corps in eastern Europe and something anecdotally I noticed about all these adults ranging from 22 to 65 learning a language as an adult. ( some , two new languages )

Proficiency seemed to depend greatly on how necessary it was for every day life. What I mean is that the people in the cities where it was likely you might run into someone who spoke English often had the worst language retention. The ones who lived in rural areas where there may not be a single person who speaks English for 50+ miles often had the greatest mastery.

Also, mysteriously there was an inflection point that came with understanding reflexively vs non. What I mean is that you can learn the words of a language but if you have to focus on whats being said, you often miss things and you tire out very easily to the point where you just give up. Everyone I worked with reported this before and after point where one day their brain didn't have to translate "Actively" – meaning the brain was translating the words for you.

Point being personally, I managed to learn Romanian and some Russian in 8 weeks of intense training ( 6 days a week, living with a host family ) – so if you want to learn Spanish for real, you gotta basically remove yourself entirely from English and live in that language 🙂 Good Luck

Use your Imagination, Can you Expound on Neuro Biology of this phenomen please.

Dr Paul Stamets, Stuttering.

I'd love to ask one more question to this topic: Is the language we speak influence how we think? Some concepts does not exists in certain languages while they do in other. Even a whole movie was made around this phenomena ("Arrival" 2016), but I'd love to hear about the science behind that.

Thanks!

I would be curious about how the Von Economo neurons(responsible for our interoceptive ability), mentioned in the stretch episode, potentially works with this emotional and viseral communication during music-assisted dance. Specifically how that can be used in therapy when working with repressed emotion or with the general overwhelm and micro ptsd accumulated from living in this technologically hyper stimulating and ideological incoherent world right now! Any thoughts? 🌌🕺🎶

Humans need to understand that other animals, and we are animals, are not objects for our use. They are conscious as we are and deserve humane treatment on our part.

@Andrewhuberman. Will you publish your VR programs please. Thank you

It gets interesting when you think of devices that can read the speech pathway fluctuations in your brain and body, then turn those signatures into matching text. I believe Google gave a presentation on this upcoming technology…

But likewise, if one develops the tech to read correlating internal firing patterns, then one could also wonder if you could send and promote firing of those speech patterns maps; sending electrical firing patterns to be most likely spoken by a person.

Presuming neural energy likes to flow down the path of least resistance, if an outside source assisted in firing related electrical signatures to words at an individual's speech pathways: there would be a good chance they would follow that path and speak those words. Possibly even having those words/thoughts in their internal dialogue. In an emotionally high state where self-awareness is absent, a person may blurt out what's on the top of their mind etc. You could use these open gate moments to influence others; a positive example is a coach getting their team amped up and highly emotional, and inserting short goal phrases for the athletes to echo and align more easily to, collective convergence.

Thoughts become words, words to actions.

Another perspective is that when we speak, read, hear others speak we resonate a specific electrical firing patterns in our brain (EEG) and subtle micro flexions along the speech pathway. So this could be seen from a Yogic point of view, and how different organs and brain regions oscillate and send out waves that go past our conscious mind. This pcast has talked about the amygdala for example and the waves it interacts with others, before we become aware of its alertness. So our bodies, organs, and hormones effect others in an energy/electrical way. If speech pathways first internally fire at a unnoticeable way, say during thought, maybe those same electric patterns are matched by those in our close proximity. Similar to how when they spoke on others finishing our sentences during a conversation, because there's a resonation between the individual's speech pathways, becoming matched. Maybe at a less amplified level, the unnoticeable firing patterns internally also cause a resonation with those in our environment. Therefore at times, our thoughts may not always be ours, and we can influence others. Maybe explaining group think etc. By paying attention to your internal voice it could at times represent your current external field.

Then if vibrations from others voices and sounds, electrically fire correlating speech pathways neurons. Then all electricity/energy fields would influence correlating/matching firing templates. Say a walk in nature would fire you one way, and allow an influence towards similar thought & word choice. Maybe even the forest would speak through you haha!

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